#426 Flock 2023: Finalize dates and venue for our next in-person contributor conference
Closed: resolved 2 years ago by jflory7. Opened 2 years ago by jflory7.

Summary

Finalize a city of interest list and dates, request bids from those cities, and offer Council recommendations for the dates and venue of the next in-person Fedora Project contributor conference, Flock 2023.

Background

This ticket is coming to the Fedora Council ticket queue late, by the circumstance of my recent onboarding to the FCAIC role. Historically, discussion for the next Flock starts in September/October, but there are several great reasons why we are a little slow. Most are best summarized that all of us haven't done this in a long while. (Or, ever.) :grinning:

Some internal Red Hat conversations already started. These were together with me, @mattdm, @bcotton, and our long-time Fedora friends in Red Hat who support our in-person events. These early conversations helped us understand what the landscape looks like for events in 2023 and also what options are possible for the next Flock. Since the last Flock in the United States was five years ago, we agreed to return Flock to the United States in 2023 (see note below).

Recently, in October 2022, KubeCon hosted their annual North America event in Detroit, Michigan, USA. Our Red Hat events friends ran a side-event there for a Kubernetes community and therefore have recent experience with running an event of our size there. There is also a strong presence of the automotive industry, which could tie into shared areas of interest in Fedora IoT or Fedora Cloud. We already have a bid for a venue in downtown Detroit if we decided to host Flock in Detroit.

The challenge is that should we host Flock in August 2023, we are less than a year away from the event. We need to narrow down a list of top cities that we would want to request bids from. We also need to consider the unique diversity and expectations from Fedora contributors, so we find venues that are cost-efficient (especially when someone pays their own way to get to Flock). I suggest that we request bids for no more than two additional cities together with the existing Detroit bid. This list needs to be delivered as soon as possible so we can get the data we need to make a decision.

NOTE: Why not consider a LATAM or APAC location? For our first time back to an in-person conference since COVID, I think the right strategy is slow and steady. The groups of people involved now who also help us with critical needs like venue management and travel support are most familiar with regions where we already hosted Flock before. I believe it is better to play to our strengths so we can rebuild our muscle memory for running an annual event every year. In the future, I hope that Flock could one day go somewhere where people from that place are used to always traveling to us.

Details

The ask to the Fedora Council are these three steps:

  1. Finalize a "city of interest" list by Wednesday, 7 December 2022 (at our scheduled meeting—sorry this is so soon).
  2. Submit a city of interest list to our Red Hat friends in events to get bids and explore options for an event of our size.
  3. Review proposed bids when available and offer Council recommendations for Flock absolutely no later than the end of January 2023.

Once the Council (via the FCAIC) submits our recommendations for a bid, this ticket is satisfied and can be closed. Any future Flock decisions would be opened in subsequent tickets.

Outcome

  • Keep on target for organizing our next in-person contributor event, Flock 2023.
  • Give timely guidance to our Red Hat events friends about what the Fedora Project wants to do next year.

I've created a topic on Fedora Discussion for this ticket.

Please keep this ticket focused. Discuss there, and record votes and decisions here. Thanks!

Discussed in 2022-12-07 meeting.


Our top recommendation for Flock 2023 is a city in Ireland, preferably between Dublin, Waterford, and/or Cork. I am forwarding this recommendation to our friends in the events team to get their feedback. I will confirm when a bidding process is started and for which cities.

Some highlights from our discussion on why Ireland:

  1. A U.S. Flock quickly became challenging because of a 3+ year wait time for visa interview appointments. Any contributor from India without an existing, valid U.S. visa would not be able to come to Flock if the current circumstances remain the same. There is evidence that circumstances would improve, but we're rolling dice with the amount of time needed for visa processing even in good circumstances. This could be true in other larger countries (e.g. Brazil?), but we have sufficient justification to explore other non-North American options.
  2. Ireland appeared to more efficient at visa processing for Indian citizens than the United States or Canada as of December 2022.
  3. We have a known presence of several Fedora contributors in Ireland. We could bring Flock closer to home for several people at once, and potentially save significantly on travel support expenses.

I am taking this off the meeting agenda for now and will follow up again when I have an update.

Metadata Update from @jflory7:
- Issue priority set to: Waiting on Assignee (was: Next Meeting)

2 years ago

Phew. Turns out this work needs a lot of lead time.

A contract is under review and going through the final procurement stages.

The contract was signed and we did make a public announcement:

https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/save-the-date-flock-to-fedora-2023/

Additional Flock work is happening in #446.

Metadata Update from @jflory7:
- Issue close_status updated to: resolved
- Issue status updated to: Closed (was: Open)

2 years ago

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