This is a ticket to request Council oversight/action on the T&Cs agreement with Weblate for translate.fedoraproject.org
TL:DR: Fedora contributors using the official https://translate.fedoraproject.org service are being required to sign a legal T&Cs agreement with the Weblate organization with many clauses defining obligations for payment and invoicing on the user.
IMHO this is inappropriate for an official Fedora community service to request of our contributors, whether hosted by Fedora infra or by a 3rd party on behalf of Fedora.
Last week I opened
https://pagure.io/fedora-l10n/tickets/issue/45
with an unsatisfactory answer and then wrote
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/ADYMRIYYSIFTTKZBKKYAEOX4S2HLQNRI/
where it has now been suggested to escalate to Council, hence this ticket.
Metadata Update from @jflory7: - Issue tagged with: Next Meeting, policies
Discussed in 2025-12-03 Fedora Council meeting.
The Fedora Council discussed this topic during our recent meeting. We understand why the community is upset and confused by the Weblate Terms & Conditions (T&Cs). Although these terms are dated from November 2024 and have not changed recently, the language implying that individual contributors ("Users") are obliged to pay invoices is unacceptable in the context of our community platform.
It appears likely that Weblate did not fully understand the implications of applying these standard commercial terms to our specific hosted instance. However, we want to be absolutely clear: Red Hat holds a specific contract with Weblate for this service which supersedes the general T&Cs users are seeing, and the financial responsibility lies solely with Red Hat. There is no obligation for individual translators or users to take financial responsibility for the Fedora Weblate service.
I am currently working with stakeholders at Red Hat and Weblate to clarify this situation and ensure these confusing T&Cs are addressed and not shown to Fedora translators. We ask for your patience while we work through these legal and administrative details. Please feel reassured that you are not liable for these costs, and we encourage you to continue your valuable translation work.
Metadata Update from @jflory7: - Issue untagged with: Next Meeting - Issue assigned to jflory7
Although these terms are dated from November 2024 and have not changed recently, the language implying that individual contributors ("Users") are obliged to pay invoices is unacceptable in the context of our community platform.
While the terms might date back to 2024, from a Fedora contributor POV something changed much more recently. AFAICT weblate only started requiring Feora contributors to agree to the new ToS in approx the Nov 2025 timeframe. Possibly they didn't sync the new ToS to the Fedora weblate instance until very recently ?
Until the UI started mandating agreement from Fedora contributors upon login at end of last year, only first time Fedora contributors would have been required to agree to the updates ToS, so no one else could be considered bound to them until now.
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