Hi everyone,
My friend, ID as freedomknight (mail: freedomknight@fedoraproject.org , real name as 陳貴鑫 Gui-Xin Chen), who is also a Fedora ambassador has had hosted a local community noncommercial forum titled "Fedora 中文論壇" which means "Fedora Chinese Forum" for Chinese (Taiwan) (zh-tw) users to promote, share and to discuss issues on Fedora. He bought the domain name "fedora-tw.org" about one year more ago, and run a Discourse forum site. However, I recently found that if we want to run a site with fedora trademark for a self-purchased domain, we have to contact Council before we did it.[1] Threfore, we would like to ask for the permission for this trademark usage hereby.
We used "Fedora Taiwan" logo of Fedora Taiwan community which was made by design team on the forum to indicate this is a local community site. "This site is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Fedora Project" declaration was added to the bottom footer of every page to inform the readers. We will be responsible for all the costs for the domain registration.
Names of the team: Fedora Taiwan community Name of the person who owns the domain: freedomknight (mail: freedomknight@fedoraproject.org , real name as 陳貴鑫 Gui-Xin Chen) Services that will be offered through the domain: local community forum URL: https://fedora-tw.org
We would like to solve this legal issue sincerely, please help and guide us what the next step we should do.
Thanks for wanting to do this right. At quick glance, the site appears to be in compliance with the trademark guidelines. I'm inclined towards approving; if the rest of the council agrees, I guess the next step is to get Red Hat Legal involved and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_license_agreement signed. Another option would be to transition to https://tw.fedoracommunity.org/ — in that case, we don't need to sign anything.
Thanks for your help.
After a discussion with some community members, we prefer to use fedora-tw.org because it is more good-looking and easy-remembered. ;)
In general, I am +1 to this request. However, I have a couple comments.
1) mind you, I am not overly familiar with the "rules" you are supposed to follow on "differentiation" (all i did was skim the wiki pages). However, I feel like "not affiliated with" is probably a little strong and potentially confusing as you are affiliated, just not endorsed. So, my motivation is two things: 1) i don't want people to think this is some other fedora 2) I am proud that there are active fedora communities worldwide
2) I would love to see your badges integrated with fedora badges. I have no idea if that is technically possible, but it would be cool.
3) I would recommend adding a redirect from tw.fedoracommunity.org -> fedora-tw.org to reduce any confusion.
langdon
I read the "not affiliated with" words from wiki on ''noncommercial and community web sites section''[1]. I am not sure if that applies to this case or not, so I just adhere with it to minimize the chances breaking the rules. :P
Maybe some clarifications needed from legal experts here.
We encourage local communities to support Fedora users and this is a website which fits perfectly into this mission. The domain name is the classic one choosen by many other local communities, but to use it (thanks for wanting to get it done right) you need to sign the Trademark license agreement Matthew pointed you to already.
Once you have it we can redirect https://tw.fedoracommunity.org/ to your website (same as we do for other local communities), you should file a separate Infra ticket for this. Finally, please file a Websites ticket to get https://fedora-tw.org added to http://fedoracommunity.org which is our website for all local communities we have over the world.
Normally I often see:
''The Fedora Project is mainatined by the community and sponsored ny RedHat. This website also is maintained by its community but it is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Fedora Project. RedHat is not responsable for the content.
You should also have a prominent link to https://getfedora.org, as stated in the guidelines.
OK, now we added a banner with link to https://getfedora.org/ which is prominent to the local forum. ;)
Is there a printing version such as PDF format for the Trademark License agreement for the website administrator to sign? Or we can just copy and paste to a text editor and print it out to sign, then scan and send back here?
Thanks!
I'm checking with Fedora Legal (and Red Hat Legal). I will let you know.
And, the answer is:
Print it, sign it, scan it, and send the result to legal@fedoraproject.org. (Please also cc mattdm).
(Thanks again to Spot!)
Hi, I am admin of fedora-tw.org. I already sign the agreement, I will upload the signed agreement
OK, we have signed the agreement with Tom Callaway of Red Hat. :)
The last task is redirecting the local community webstie from tw.fedoracommunity.org to fedora-tw.org. [1]
We may close this ticket after that. 1. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-websites/ticket/411
Thank you everyone!
I think we can close it right now, from a council point of view. :)
Got it!