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-1 Venezuela has a strong user base and several collaborators, funding some one to travel to help an event that is well staffed makes no sense to me.

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-1, I share the @yn1v thoughts about this.

On the other hand, if you are willing to participate in the local event in your actual city or to organize an event in your locality if there isn't any process, investing funds in swag for that local event will make sense.

-1 Venezuela has a strong user base and several collaborators, funding some one to travel to help an event that is well staffed makes no sense to me.

And I'm one of them. I'm looking collaborate in this Flisol, given I have two years attending here in Colombia

-1, I share the @yn1v thoughts about this.
On the other hand, if you are willing to participate in the local event in your actual city or to organize an event in your locality if there isn't any process, investing funds in swag for that local event will make sense.

I'm not organizer here in Colombia, and I have participated the last two years in my current city, I have the right to ask funds to participate in Venezuela, I respect your vote, but I don't share your thoughts

@yn1v @porfiriopaiz si de algo sirve aclarar, el evento está localizado en toda la frontera entre Colombia y Venezuela, no tenemos ningún otro colaborador cerca y sale prácticamente lo mismo en costos traer alguien de bogotá, como traer a alguien desde Caracas, el viaje desde Colombia en ningún momento es un viaje internacional, ya que es hasta la ciudad de cúcuta del lado de Colombia en frontera con Venezuela y la ciudad de San Cristóbal está a 45 minutos en auto.

No se van a incurrir en ningunos otros gastos ya que el alojamiento y alimentación de @echevemaster corre por cuenta nuestra.

En otro orden de ideas, esta es la charla que ha propuesto @echevemaster:

"Introduction to Fedora Layered Image Build Service."

The Fedora Layered Image Build System aims to provide a new type of official binary artifact produced by Fedora. Currently, we produce two main types of artifacts: RPMs, and images. The RPMs are created in Koji from specfiles in dist-git. The images come in different formats, but have in common creation in Koji from kickstart files — this includes the official Fedora Docker Base Image. This change introduces a new type of image, a Docker Layered Image, which is created from a Dockerfile and builds on top of that base image.

Es una charla de alto contenido técnico, el cual realmente queremos que se de acá de forma tal de sembrar la semilla en algunos usuarios que actualmente ya tenemos de Fedora acá de forma tal de incorporarlos al proyecto en caso de que se sientan motivados.

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I'm not organizer here in Colombia, and I have participated the last two years in my current city, I have the right to ask funds to participate in Venezuela, I respect your vote, but I don't share your thoughts

First of all, I did not say you don't have the right to ask for funds to participate in Venezuela, so quoting it is pointless :) .

@echevemaster , now I would like to point at the fact that:
There is a huge difference between going to a place where there is not any other Fedora Representative than going to a place were already are Fedora Representatives helping, keep in mind we have a 10% limit as of now, increasing the expenses might cost others not being available to ask for funds to local events in theirs cities.

@echevemaster and @richzendy: I'm perceiving a phenomena were some Fedora Contributors (Not echevemaster or richzendy) are only willing to ask for funds only when it implies travelling abroad, even people that has only showed up to regular meetings for this matter (Asking funds to travel <- @lkf) while it is obvious the lack of willingness and desire to organize small events as Release Party's or Producing swag.

@echevemaster , now I would like to point at the fact that:
There is a huge difference between going to a place where there is not any other Fedora Representative than going to a place were already are Fedora Representatives helping, keep in mind we have a 10% limit as of now, increasing the expenses might cost others not being available to ask for funds to local events in theirs cities.

I'm clear about this, so it's pointless pointing me this :), we have three years without spending the resources in a good way, just when the people hear about the resources will be cut, because we are not spending it properly, they start to want to fix it. My point here is, the 10% is more than USD 1000, the median the people is asking is 100 to 200 dollars (more than five countries), and we have to spend the total amount, why? because if we don't, our budget will continue decreasing, there are people here that have understood the process or not?

@echevemaster and @richzendy: I'm perceiving a phenomena were some Fedora Contributors (Not echevemaster or richzendy) are only willing to ask for funds only when it implies travelling abroad, even people that has only showed up to regular meetings for this matter (Asking funds to travel <- @lkf) while it is obvious the lack of willingness and desire to organize small events as Release Party's or Producing swag.

That's totally right, and it's an old, very old issue, because of that, exist the voting process, people must check if the collaborator is doing something or not, and voting in consequence.

I'm clear about this, so it's pointless pointing me this :), we have three years without spending the resources in a good way, just when the people hear about the resources will be cut, because we are not spending it properly, they start to want to fix it. My point here is, the 10% is more than USD 1000, the median the people is asking is 100 to 200 dollars (more than five countries), and we have to spend the total amount, why? because if we don't, our budget will continue decreasing, there are people here that have understood the process or not?

@echevemaster, I'm aware of this, but my concern was about the 10% limit. Other than that you have my +1 :ok_hand:

I think we should start doing the math about it. And see how much we can spent after the already approved tickets.

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This ticket has been approved
Link: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/fedora-latam/fedora-latam.2017-04-08-22.59.html

Hi, this is the ticket I need, please @yn1v let me know if you need more info to buy it, thanks in advance.

This air ticket has been bought

Thanks @yn1v

@yn1v did the work here. Nothing else to do.