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#11608 [Matrix] Request for admin to @fca:fedoraproject.org in several spaces
Closed: Fixed 5 months ago by jflory7. Opened 6 months ago by jflory7.

Closed: Fixed
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Describe what you would like us to do:

I am requesting admin rights on the @fca:fedoraproject.org account in the Fedora Matrix spaces:

My justification is for two reasons:

  1. Onboarding: Most often, I am helping a team get set up on Matrix and my use case is that I want to add a room to an existing space. However, I do not have permissions to do so in many spaces. Setting the admin bit on my role account (i.e. @fca:fedoraproject.org) makes this easier to do and also to sustainably hand off to a future successor.
  2. Maintenance and moderation: A few unscrupulous cases happened in our busiest rooms where we needed moderation, fast. I would like the admin bit across a space so that I can help intervene in the most severe cases, even if I am not a room moderator. Also, generally, I am trying to spend more time on the Matrix end of things so I can help organize a team or SIG around Matrix in the future.

When do you need this to be done by? (YYYY/MM/DD)

This contributes to #11605. Sooner is better than later. The SIGs space is most important to me for #11605.

No problem doing this, just curious... you should be moderator already there and that should allow you to add rooms to spaces, does it not?

I think you're also a moderator on the top level fedora space... but not sure how it trickles down. ;(

Also, FWIW, I plan to setup a admin / moderator bot... this should allow us to use moderate via the bot and not need to add more/any folks permissions directly...but thats down the road I agree.

No problem doing this, just curious... you should be moderator already there and that should allow you to add rooms to spaces, does it not?

I am for some of them, but not all (e.g. Administrative and SIGs). Also, it is under my personal account @jflory7:fedora.im and not @fca:fedoraproject.org.

I think you're also a moderator on the top level fedora space... but not sure how it trickles down. ;(

It would be nice if it were more obvious how this was all supposed to work. :sweat_smile:

Also, FWIW, I plan to setup a admin / moderator bot... this should allow us to use moderate via the bot and not need to add more/any folks permissions directly...but thats down the road I agree.

This sounds like the ideal case. Also, when a bot is ready, I have no issue in demoting or reducing admin privileges I have in favor of the bot.
Edited 6 months ago by jflory7

I'll try and look at these tomorrow...

FWIW, you can never demote someone who is an admin. Once they are an admin they are admin of that room forever as far as I know.

Metadata Update from @phsmoura:
- Issue assigned to kevin
- Issue priority set to: Waiting on Assignee (was: Needs Review)
- Issue tagged with: low-gain, low-trouble, ops
6 months ago

@kevin an admin can demote themselves, but other admins cannot remove them (without replacing/tombstoning the room)

Yeah, I guess so... for some reason I thought they couldn't even demote themselves. But I guess it's mostly the case of them being gone/missing and no one can demote them.

ok. All the fedoraproject.org ones are done.

The fedora.im ones seem to have been created by @duffy I am not sure where they are used? I can use the admin api to add admins, but perhaps we should loop Mo in first... ;)

I followed up with @duffy and got this sorted for the last two spaces. I also gave them room aliases under the :fedoraproject.org homeserver. This is all sorted now, so I am going to close the ticket as fixed. Thanks everyone who pitched in here!

Metadata Update from @jflory7:
- Issue close_status updated to: Fixed
- Issue status updated to: Closed (was: Open)
5 months ago

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