#314 Do we need to "integrate" with the "welcome" topic on Discussion.fp.o
Opened by ankursinha. Modified

Someone, probably Matthew, also pointed out to me that we have a "welcome" topic in the water cooler on discussion.fp.o:

https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/introduce-yourself-2025/151508

The question was whether this needs to be integrated with the "welcome to Fedora" process in someway?

What do folks think?


I'm not entirely sure myself. The introduction topic is not necessarily for people that want to start contributing. Lots of folks there are just there to sort of get to know others.

There may be some folks there that do want to contribute, though, and perhaps we could periodically take a look and redirect people there that have shown an interest in contributing to the "welcome to Fedora" process?

Discussion is a lot more "welcoming" (see what I did there?) of a place as compared to the Mailing Lists. I can definitely see the appeal from the newcomer's perspective to have the entire Welcome To Fedora Project process over on Discussion. I do not like having things split apart between Pagure and Discussion though as that adds one more place to visit for a newcomer when we could be benefitted by making things easy for them.

I think moving everything to Discourse is a good idea=2E

MatH

On 12 June 2025 6:39:46=E2=80=AFam GMT+02:00, Akashdeep Dhar pagure@pagur= e=2Eio wrote:

t0xic0der added a new comment to an issue you are following:
Discussion is a lot more "welcoming" (see what I did there?) of a place a= s compared to the Mailing Lists=2E I can definitely see the appeal from the= newcomer's perspective to have the entire Welcome To Fedora Project proces= s over on Discussion=2E I do not like having things split apart between Pag= ure and Discussion though as that adds one more place to visit for a newcom= er when we could be benefitted by making things easy for them=2E

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I see the accessibility/ux related advantages of discussion.fp.o, but the idea behind a ticket is multi-fold:

  • expose people to the ticket workflow---teams/SIGs are not going to use discussion instead of tickets: a forum and an issue tracker are just not the same thing
  • use of tags etc: yes, discussion can do this, but here we can add whatever tags we want, on discussion we need to be slightly careful as the tags need to align with how the rest of the platform is setup
  • statuses: same as above, here, we use status tags to note where people are, not sure how this will happen on discussion
  • metrics etc: these depend on tags and other things, so I'm not sure how we'll collect them off discussion
  • grouping and access control: we add people to the fedora-join group here, which is then a collection of newcomers that has access to all fedora-join resources/repos: this sort of thing does not exist on discussion.

We could modify the process to fit discussion.fp.o---any takers that want to think about this, test things out, and make a proposal? Also, do keep in mind that we're going to migrate to forgejo soonish---in the next couple of releases.

The one place where I think we can perhaps move to discussion already is the introductory post.

The worry there is that irrespective of people's personal preferences, mailing lists are not going away---the devel etc mailing lists are here to stay. (Yes discussion provides an e-mail workflow, but it's nowhere complete enough to replace a mailing list). A lot of newcomers don't have experience with mailing lists, and by asking them to introduce themselves on ours, it gives them early exposure to this system.

This ticket has been migrated to the forgejo instance. Please find the new ticket here
https://forge.fedoraproject.org/join/Fedora-Join//issues/314

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