There are some issues that have languished a while because consensus generally can't be reached between the issue creator and the Fedora KDE Sig.
Generally speaking, it appears that an end user will open an issue relevant to their workflow and the KDE Sig will consider each default on a case-by-case but because Fedora is an "upstream-first" distribution, it is frequently asked to send the request upstream first. In the case of defaults, the upstream appears to be looking for downstream to take the lead on default settings.
There is a risk here of default instability if the downstream is frequently changed based on the input of individual users, and often there is insufficient data provided in the issues to make an educated decision about the impact to other users.
I believe it would be beneficial to codify the data that the end user seeking the change should bring to the Sig before requesting the change. I think depending on the change impact, there can be different criteria that need to be met. Also some changes can simply be off the table (e.g. X11 change requests).
The members of the Fedora KDE Sig wouldn't need to follow these procedures but they would probably help their case. There are some times where upstream has requested downstream install default applications, which I think would be an exception (e.g. ngraham, tfella etc requesting a change).
Here is a proposal:
poll
If this all feels unnecessary, I can start going through some of the old issues and start closing them out instead of letting them languish just to do some cleanup.
If the Sig thinks this is something that would be beneficial, we can get the Fedora KDE Documentation Team to create a Wiki Page / Documentation Page that writes up the procedure and then send out the information on the mailing list or on the discussion forums to make end users aware.
Metadata Update from @timaeos: - Issue untagged with: meeting
Metadata Update from @siosm: - Issue tagged with: meeting
Metadata Update from @siosm: - Issue untagged with: meeting
(Sorry, did not want to add the meeting tag back, it's a pagure bug...)
I'm going to go ahead and mark #6, #7, #8, and #11 to deferred to upstream. The Sig can revisit them later if there's more to be discussed at some point. I do think that there should be some sort of consensus measures for changing it without upstream's consent but that will need to be deliberated in a meeting at some point