This relates to #106, Improve WG organization, which starts off with this problem "WG is suffering from low attendance at its meetings".
Per today's meeting discussion: the fortnightly scheduled meeting keeps it sufficiently out of band that people often miss it; and if we have to skip a meeting for any reason, it's another two weeks for the next meeting.
Clearly there's much to discuss, the meetings regularly use the full hour, and then some.
Proposal 1: Weekly meetings, 1330 UTC (half hour later) for 30 minutes. This is the "better have our ducks in a row" before the meeting even begins, meeting style. It probably works best for in-meeting votes, with discussion in advance on desktop@, #fedora-workstation, or in-ticket. Perhaps it requires selection of a permanent (meeting) chair to keep meetings on-target.
Proposal 2: Weekly meetings, 1300 UTC for 1 hour. This is better for group discussion, with either in-ticket or in-meeting votes.
Alternative proposal?
Metadata Update from @catanzaro: - Issue tagged with: meeting
+1 to weekly in general. I think we could use the hour and I can't schedule against alt week anyway so I have the hour free. So, recommending proposal 2.
Proposal 2 will make it easier for me to plan too, so I'm good with that.
For proposal 1: I'm pretty sure half-hour meetings would just be too short for us to fully discuss an issue. We took an hour today mainly just to agree that we need further discussion on the first agenda item. So -1.
For proposal 2: we have a lot of items on the agenda right now and it will take a while to get through them all at the biweekly rate. So it makes sense to me, +1.
Agreed with what @catanzaro said.
-1 to first proposal, +1 to second.
I'm +1 for proposal 2. That's +5 for proposal 2, we need one more.
Metadata Update from @chrismurphy: - Issue untagged with: meeting
+1 for proposal 2 - though note that I'm probably almost always going to be 5-10 minutes late.
I'd also be more in favour of 1 hour meetings than 30 minute meetings.
However, my view is that the goal should be to make the meetings more efficient, rather than just to have more of them - otherwise this is a recipe to just burn up more of everyone's time.
Another possible approach would be to meet every week, but alternate between meetings and working sessions. During working sessions WG members would use the hour to make progress on their tickets, or discuss work items. Working sessions could also be used by sub-groups to have their own calls or breakout sessions.
In my experience, working sessions are most effective if there's some advance planning. This can be as simple as having a list of priority tickets, and getting each group member to put their name against an issue.
One hour long weekly meeting proposal accepted. @catanzaro can you update the calendar? For what it's worth, fedocal's future is not certain: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8274
I also like the idea of meeting time being used for breakout sessions, either on-demand or alternating basis.
I'll update the calendar.
Neal, you'll be chair next week (Monday).
Here's what I came up with:
Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group.
Agenda: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting
Chair:
Comments welcome.
Anyway, FIXED!
Metadata Update from @catanzaro: - Issue close_status updated to: Fixed - Issue status updated to: Closed (was: Open)
Just FWIW, my Workstation calendar subscription in my (Android) phone is already updated to match all of these meeting dates. I didn't have to do anything to get the updates.
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