Thinking about it, it's a bit strange that basically all other groups of people in Fedora have a public Matrix room (SIGs, releng, infra, etc.), but FESCo doesn't. It would often be helpful to have a low-friction way to communicate with other FESCo members (i.e. something that doesn't involve sending stuff to the private mailing list).
I proposed this over a year ago because the Council asked FESCo to consider it and help move the main groups of the project to Matrix, but we [FESCo] rejected it at the time.
Personally, I am ok with email. But I'm also just an unfrozen caveman.
As I understood it, the reason FESCo doesn't have its own channel is because we agreed to use #fedora-devel for our conversations and reserve the email list mainly for private communication.
I suppose a channel doesn't really cost anything to create, but it seems like unnecessary overhead.
The request from the council was for "official" project groups to move to Matrix and off IRC for regular communication. Matrix does offer us the ability to create a private room, but as previously stated I am ok with email.
If we create a Matrix channel, I think we should discontinue official use of #fedora-devel. We don't need two locations for chat, that will only make things frustrating.
I was mostly thinking about stuff like "did we agree to run a meeting tomorrow?" or "who was supposed to run next week's meeting?", which I don't think is a good fit for #fedora-devel either.
I think those things are fine in devel... we do reminders to members that a meeting is supposed to happen there already... I guess it's hard to target fesco members if they aren't paying attention to devel.
Splitting out a fesco channel makes me worry that it would be used for discussions that maintainers could well be interested in, but wouldn't see...
Using fedora-devel channel for the weekly announcement about the meeting and a reminder is fine: other people may want to join the meeting and or just check the agenda and that reminder is useful to them too. But I think that purely organizational discussions like "who is running the next meeting" and "did we forget to send out the agenda" are noise to people and it'd be better to move them off fedora-devel which has 500+ participants.
And likewise devel is often busy enough that messages relevant only for fesco and guest attendees might be lost in the noise
+1 to having a public room but we probably should add a clear description of what it’s for
If everyone would like a room we can do that. I reserve the right to say I told you so when there's a non trivial discussion there that no one sees. ;)
How do we want to move forward here? A docs pr about the room and it's purpose/topics, then create it?
Does someone want to own creating the docs PR? I'm still a -0 on bothering to do this at all, so I'm not volunteering.
To be clear, I explicitly didn't request this to happen. I just wanted to know whether y'all thought it should happen.
I'm fine with doing a vote and if there's no support for it to drop the idea.
Personally I'm 0. Would there be some advantages? Sure. Would there be coordinating issue? Definitely yes. I can live with or without it (as soon as I manage to properly configure my matrix to send the right notifications)
OK, so maybe let's close this. People are lukewarm, and so far we went along OK without a specific channel. If we ever need this, we can revisit.
ok, lets close... unless we want to vote at tomorrow's meeting.
If someone would like that, just reopen and we can do so...
Metadata Update from @kevin: - Issue close_status updated to: Rejected - Issue status updated to: Closed (was: Open)
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