#4347 Remove Yuriy Tim's blog from Fedora Planet
Closed: Fixed None Opened 10 years ago by yurchor.

= bug description =

Yuriy Tim's posts have a strong Russian nationalistic taste with negligence to other nations and denying freedom to speak in the Internet.

= bug analysis =

Examples:

2014-04-12: http://tim4dev.blogspot.com/search/label/Лунная%20афера

quote: "В сети часто пишут, что некие люди были на Луне.
Ну, во-первых не люди, а американцы, во-вторых -- не были. И это -- научно-медицинский факт."

translation: "They often write in the net that some humans have visited the Moon.
Well, at first not humans but Americans. For the second, they have not. This is a scientific and medical fact."

2014-05-01: http://tim4dev.blogspot.com/2014/04/blog-post_29.html

quote: "Интернет под контроль
Прикольно читать, как переполошились офисные хомячки и интернет-диванные воены.
Теперь придется отвечать за базар, детки. И это хорошо.
Также государство берет под контроль DNS серверы и зоны .РФ и .ru, создает единый внешний шлюз.
И это также правильно."

translation: "Internet under control
It is fun to read what a panic in a scope of office hamsters and sofa-internet warriors.
It is time to pay the price for your words, chickens. And it is good.
The government (in Russia) takes under control DNS servers and domain zones .РФ and .ru. It creates an external gateway.
And this is right as well."

= fix recommendation =

It is legible to write everything in a private blog, but please it is not right to share your roaches in the head with others. Please remove this blog from Fedora People. Thanks.


These are the comments I made on #fedora-admin when this ticket was filled, this is just my opinion about information given in this ticket and on IRC.

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<bitlord> I don't have vote about this but, maybe if it is wrong, but about ticket #4347 just tell the author to keep fedora unrelated things (non-FLOSS, ...) out of planet.fp.o to create specific category/tag which will show up on planet and be with appropriate content (I think DNS post, and internet control has something to do with freedom generally, but other post if it is translated right and it is offending, is not good!)

[11:24] <bitlord> I don't know much of Russian, but as I understand that first sentence about moon, and people, I think he wanted to say, that no people were on the moon even if Americans claim they were there. (and there are some theories about that, not because people are against Americans, but because of something else (I'm not an expert in that, so I don't want to discuss it)) (I can understand some Russian, but as I understand it poorly, it can be
[11:24] <bitlord> misinterpreted in my head! So I don't want to say that my interpretation is right!)
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Other comments

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11:26] <yurchor> bitlord: Hi! The whole spirit of the blog is not aligned with this interpretation. He wanted to say what he said: "Americans are not humans"...
[11:26] <pingou> yurchor: bitlord has a point, did you ask him to keep non-FLOSS related stuff off the planet using a category or tag or something?
[11:26] <bitlord> yurchor: I cannot claim anything else about that blog, because I don't follow it.
[11:27] <pingou> yurchor: s/did you/could you/? since you speak the language :)
[11:28] <yurchor> pingou: No, I did not. Does it matter? Three last posts are about Russian isolationism.
[11:28] <pingou> yurchor: he is entitled to his opinion, so we could just ask him not to post it on the Fedora planet :)
[11:29] <yurchor> pingou: Ok. We can. But I do not think he will listen me for various reasons: I do not like isolationism, I'm Ukrainian and I do not like fascism of any kind.
[11:30] <yurchor> Can you ask him to share his thoughts with Russian only audience?
[11:30] <pingou> yurchor: ignoring us is his right as well, but then we can say: we tried, you don't listen, we block you :)
[11:30] <pingou> which is kinda nicer than blocking him directly w/o contact of any kind
[11:31] <yurchor> Ok. I will ask Misha Shnurapet (Russian translation team coordinator).
[11:32] <pingou> cool, thanks!
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So, first if there is no other, offending material on that blog, I think we should contanct author and ask him to make tags/categories with F(L)OSS/fedora releated things and expose only those categories/tagged posts on planet.fp.o

Was there any reply to mailing the user directly?

Whats the status here?

Replying to [comment:3 kevin]:

Was there any reply to mailing the user directly?

Whats the status here?

No. There was no answer.

I changed their planet feed to be:

http://tim4dev.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default/-/fedora/

That will just pull the 'fedora' related ones.

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